Amberexile wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:21 pm

excessbee wrote: January 21st, 2024, 8:31 pm

rncfc wrote: January 21st, 2024, 7:37 pm

Seeing as we had season ticket holders doubling up their allocation via trust memberships, perhaps we should review priority here too?

I'm not trying to start another line of personal argument here, so please don't look upon it that way. I've dipped in and out of this and other threads about ticket sales and you seem quite sure about people claiming a double allowance (season ticket and trust). Is this through personal evidence or 'a mate told me'. A rumour like that can spread quickly, especially through social media.
What if the situation actually was someone who went along with two trust membership cards (or details) and two season tickets (for a second pair of people). He/ she could legitimately walk away with four tickets (or even eight) which would be the allowance for the four persons involved. This may have included two for an exiled fan unable to come down to queue, an elderly fan likewise indisposed, someone at work. One person queues up on behalf of four. Surely that's an efficient way of getting tickets?

I don't think it would be be detected if a season ticket holding trust member living locally bought their season ticket +1 allocation online and then queued at the ticket office as a trust member to get a third ticket.

Bangitintrnet wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:27 pm

Amberexile wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:21 pm

excessbee wrote: January 21st, 2024, 8:31 pm

rncfc wrote: January 21st, 2024, 7:37 pm

Seeing as we had season ticket holders doubling up their allocation via trust memberships, perhaps we should review priority here too?

I'm not trying to start another line of personal argument here, so please don't look upon it that way. I've dipped in and out of this and other threads about ticket sales and you seem quite sure about people claiming a double allowance (season ticket and trust). Is this through personal evidence or 'a mate told me'. A rumour like that can spread quickly, especially through social media.
What if the situation actually was someone who went along with two trust membership cards (or details) and two season tickets (for a second pair of people). He/ she could legitimately walk away with four tickets (or even eight) which would be the allowance for the four persons involved. This may have included two for an exiled fan unable to come down to queue, an elderly fan likewise indisposed, someone at work. One person queues up on behalf of four. Surely that's an efficient way of getting tickets?

I don't think it would be be detected if a season ticket holding trust member living locally bought their season ticket +1 allocation online and then queued at the ticket office as a trust member to get a third ticket.

I don't understand the issue with doing this, surely a season ticket holder who is also a trust member did have eligibility for 3 tickets?

excessbee wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:35 pm Ah, because Trust membership details are not linked to the Ticketmaster system. Mind you, that's a particularly contrived way of obtaining an extra ticket and involves being in a queue for five hours. My theory of Chinese whispers is just a credible.

Amberexile wrote: January 21st, 2024, 11:08 pm

excessbee wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:35 pm Ah, because Trust membership details are not linked to the Ticketmaster system. Mind you, that's a particularly contrived way of obtaining an extra ticket and involves being in a queue for five hours. My theory of Chinese whispers is just a credible.

It is but all Trust members had no option other than to queue in order to get their ticket and the queues became much smaller as Friday passed. Thinking about it further, there would be zero chance of detection buying the Trust ticket in person first and the Season ticket +1 afterwards online, even using your phone while still at the ground. Of course I have no idea whether anybody actually did do this but I do reckon that there will be a lot of +1 tickets on the black market next week.

Bangitintrnet wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:27 pm

Amberexile wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:21 pm

excessbee wrote: January 21st, 2024, 8:31 pm

rncfc wrote: January 21st, 2024, 7:37 pm

Seeing as we had season ticket holders doubling up their allocation via trust memberships, perhaps we should review priority here too?

I'm not trying to start another line of personal argument here, so please don't look upon it that way. I've dipped in and out of this and other threads about ticket sales and you seem quite sure about people claiming a double allowance (season ticket and trust). Is this through personal evidence or 'a mate told me'. A rumour like that can spread quickly, especially through social media.
What if the situation actually was someone who went along with two trust membership cards (or details) and two season tickets (for a second pair of people). He/ she could legitimately walk away with four tickets (or even eight) which would be the allowance for the four persons involved. This may have included two for an exiled fan unable to come down to queue, an elderly fan likewise indisposed, someone at work. One person queues up on behalf of four. Surely that's an efficient way of getting tickets?

I don't think it would be be detected if a season ticket holding trust member living locally bought their season ticket +1 allocation online and then queued at the ticket office as a trust member to get a third ticket.

I don't understand the issue with doing this, surely a season ticket holder who is also a trust member did have eligibility for 3 tickets?

excessbee wrote: January 21st, 2024, 8:31 pm

rncfc wrote: January 21st, 2024, 7:37 pm

Seeing as we had season ticket holders doubling up their allocation via trust memberships, perhaps we should review priority here too?

I'm not trying to start another line of personal argument here, so please don't look upon it that way. I've dipped in and out of this and other threads about ticket sales and you seem quite sure about people claiming a double allowance (season ticket and trust). Is this through personal evidence or 'a mate told me'. A rumour like that can spread quickly, especially through social media.
What if the situation actually was someone who went along with two trust membership cards (or details) and two season tickets (for a second pair of people). He/ she could legitimately walk away with four tickets (or even eight) which would be the allowance for the four persons involved. This may have included two for an exiled fan unable to come down to queue, an elderly fan likewise indisposed, someone at work. One person queues up on behalf of four. Surely that's an efficient way of getting tickets?

Bangitintrnet wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:27 pm

I don't understand the issue with doing this, surely a season ticket holder who is also a trust member did have eligibility for 3 tickets?

Stan A. Einstein wrote: January 22nd, 2024, 9:36 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:27 pm

I don't understand the issue with doing this, surely a season ticket holder who is also a trust member did have eligibility for 3 tickets?

Let me explain.

Some of us want Newport County to be as successful as possible. To do this we need to encourage as many people as possible to watch Newport County and to feel good about having Newport County as their club. A game versus Manchester United is a wonderful opportunity to do that.

Now unfortunately we know that the buying of multiple tickets slowed down the queues to the extent that many people didn't get tickets. Further those with only an up until now casual interest in Newport County won't even be bothered to try to get tickets for the game.

The result is that those who queued and didn't get tickets may be lost to the club. Those casual supporters who couldn't get tickets are potential fans we will never now have.

Meanwhile whilst I'm sure many who bought three tickets will have done so for friends many will be selling those tickets on to touts.

So in short the selling of multiple tickets will probably result in fans being driven away, new fans being lost and ticket touts making lots of money out of genuine County supporters.

I get you didn't 'understand the problem'. Well you do now.

Stan A. Einstein wrote: January 22nd, 2024, 9:36 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:27 pm

I don't understand the issue with doing this, surely a season ticket holder who is also a trust member did have eligibility for 3 tickets?

Let me explain.

Some of us want Newport County to be as successful as possible. To do this we need to encourage as many people as possible to watch Newport County and to feel good about having Newport County as their club. A game versus Manchester United is a wonderful opportunity to do that.

Now unfortunately we know that the buying of multiple tickets slowed down the queues to the extent that many people didn't get tickets. Further those with only an up until now casual interest in Newport County won't even be bothered to try to get tickets for the game.

The result is that those who queued and didn't get tickets may be lost to the club. Those casual supporters who couldn't get tickets are potential fans we will never now have.

Meanwhile whilst I'm sure many who bought three tickets will have done so for friends many will be selling those tickets on to touts.

So in short the selling of multiple tickets will probably result in fans being driven away, new fans being lost and ticket touts making lots of money out of genuine County supporters.

I get you didn't 'understand the problem'. Well you do now.

Jonesy3 wrote: January 22nd, 2024, 9:54 am

Stan A. Einstein wrote: January 22nd, 2024, 9:36 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: January 21st, 2024, 9:27 pm

I don't understand the issue with doing this, surely a season ticket holder who is also a trust member did have eligibility for 3 tickets?

Let me explain.

Some of us want Newport County to be as successful as possible. To do this we need to encourage as many people as possible to watch Newport County and to feel good about having Newport County as their club. A game versus Manchester United is a wonderful opportunity to do that.

Now unfortunately we know that the buying of multiple tickets slowed down the queues to the extent that many people didn't get tickets. Further those with only an up until now casual interest in Newport County won't even be bothered to try to get tickets for the game.

The result is that those who queued and didn't get tickets may be lost to the club. Those casual supporters who couldn't get tickets are potential fans we will never now have.

Meanwhile whilst I'm sure many who bought three tickets will have done so for friends many will be selling those tickets on to touts.

So in short the selling of multiple tickets will probably result in fans being driven away, new fans being lost and ticket touts making lots of money out of genuine County supporters.

I get you didn't 'understand the problem'. Well you do now.

Actually, what slowed down the queue on Thursday was ticket office staff doing the necessary checks on ST and Trust membership eligibility. I spoke on Saturday to an elderly chap who is a ST holder & Trust member who sits in the same row as us.

He queued on Thursday as he doesn’t use the internet. His season ticket credentials were checked before he could purchase his ticket and his +1. When he tried to do the same with his Trust membership he was told - correctly - that he could not do so.

Likewise, you could not buy more than your allotted number of tickets as a ST holder online.

The idea that people were waking away from the ticket office on Thursday with wads of tickets to which they weren’t entitled is fanciful, as is the idea that many regular supporters will miss out. I’m not suggesting that some might.

Will some ST holders or Trust members sell on their additional tickets? Of course they will.

Personally, we’re taking our neighbours with us. They’re irregular attendees but it saved them the hassle of trying to get tickets today. We bought tickets elsewhere in the ground to ensure we’re all together. That means our usual 3 ST seats are available in the general sale today.

EDIT What you could do, should you be so inclined, was buy your ST allocation online & then buy your Trust allocation in person. That’s because the club hasn’t uploaded Trust membership data to the ticketing system, as I’ve highlighted many times.

Fu Ming wrote: January 22nd, 2024, 10:10 am I just logged onto the on line ticket site, basically out of interest as I have my ticket and don't intend to buy another.
At 10:05, I was 12227 in the queue with an estimated wait time of over an hour.
There must be a lot of the so called Man U fans from around the country trying to get a ticket.
Common sense would say that the vast majority of those on line have got no chance.