DT1892 wrote: November 10th, 2023, 6:21 pm

CathedralCounty wrote: November 10th, 2023, 9:10 am

DT1892 wrote: November 9th, 2023, 5:26 pm

CathedralCounty wrote: November 8th, 2023, 2:28 pm Its tone deaf at best and downright disrespectful at worst to hold a noisy and politically 'controversial' demo on remembrance day BUT the men (for it was and has been nearly all men – interestingly Israel being one of very few states who have conscription for both genders) who fought and died in the two world wars and subsequent conflicts would have supported people’s right to protest so for me I think let them protest because as I’ve said before I'm an [all but] free speech absolutist and one can’t pick and choose (although the Met police seems to).

For what it’s worth these protesters are buffoons – they don’t know which ‘river’ it is in the ‘river to the sea’ and they don’t seem to realise that their political views (far left leaning/socially progressive/pro LGBT, etc) is the antithesis of Hamas/Islam which is a regressive ideology – the classic case – ‘queers for Palestine’! Erm you do realise that its Israel that is hugely pro LGBT (Tel Aviv is a major gay friendly destination) and Palestine simply is not! I mean I get love thine enemies but its simply laughable.

People who have faced oppression tend to stand up for those who are currently oppressed. I think it says a lot about a person who can stand up for and support the rights of those who may not do the same for them. Certainly not the action of a 'buffoon'.

People who have faced oppression tend to stand up for those who are currently oppressed. I honestly don't think that's the driver! these people haven't thought about it have they? Its a few people who happen to be gay with a silly banner jumping on the fashionable cause bandwagon does anyone believe they are 'stand(ing) up for and support(ing) the rights of those who may not do the same for them'?! C'mon you know that's not whats happening here...

Obviously, it's not a bastion of gay rights in Palestine. It's about fighting oppression. Do you think LGBT folks over here should pull up the ladder behind them now that they've got theirs? Or should they continue to fight for those who still face oppression?

Gay Palestinians exist (a fact the Israeli military loves to use as blackmail) and there are many LGBT groups within Palestine. Do you not think it might be easier to fight for their rights if their homes weren't being stolen from them or bulldozed? Wouldn't it be easier for them if their homes, schools and hospitals weren't being bombed? I'm sure they would have more allies and supporters within Palestine if the IDF stopped murdering their friends and families.

DT1892 wrote: November 13th, 2023, 11:48 pm I don't know about you, but I've always thought that not wanting to see children being blown up is basic human decency, rather than a 'fashionable' viewpoint.

'Team far left'. No doubt it will be 'woke' to be against genocide next!