SixtyYearFan wrote: March 10th, 2024, 9:56 pm
CathedralCounty wrote: March 9th, 2024, 5:31 pm
Exile 1976 wrote: March 9th, 2024, 5:01 pm
CathedralCounty wrote: March 9th, 2024, 1:52 pm
Exile 1976 wrote: March 9th, 2024, 12:40 pm
CathedralCounty wrote: March 9th, 2024, 11:51 am
Exile 1976 wrote: March 9th, 2024, 10:24 am
CathedralCounty wrote: March 9th, 2024, 8:51 am
Exile 1976 wrote: March 9th, 2024, 7:08 am
CathedralCounty wrote: March 8th, 2024, 9:38 pm
I don’t think/say much about you at all but tend to err on being charitable about a persons character and intent as I would
hope others would towards me (you seem to have a different somewhat more judgemental approach) I certainly wouldn’t stoop to childish ad hominem abuse simply because I was unable to make an argument in a calm and measured way, if insulting someone online is how you get your kicks then it’s rather sad but hey ho we all need an outlet just rather a shame we can’t have a reasoned discussion based on dispassionate appraisal of anecdotal evidence, personal experience and fact.
The irony being that for someone who seems particularly exorcised with in stadia/online abuse you’re rather quick to resort to…online abuse.
Said it before and I’ll say it again, you come across as a right wrong ‘un. I will always call that out.
I’m giving far too much credence to someone who posts insults in response to reasonable views (albeit on previous occasions views I have clumsily expressed) and admittedly taking myself slightly too seriously as well, but why am I a “wrong un” for holding and expressing mainstream views? I think it’s a sad I indictment on discourse that you hold that belief and the use of “call out” by you belies a certain mindset of a crusader (and sad to say I don’t think you post in jest I think you genuinely believe it which is even more alarming). Personal insults and deliberately misquoting just undermine any argument you may have had, they say “I can’t argue against that I’ll stick my fingers in my ears and call you a wally” they make you look a bit silly and a lot like the online abusers you are decrying. By all means disagree but please don’t disrespect.
I know you want to be seen to be on the “right side of history” but honestly the majority of people think like I do they’re just not brave/naive enough to post about it online (although I stand by all my posts as they are always calm, always measured and never resort to personal insults).
I don’t need your affirmation but I also would rather not have you defamation either however insignificant this forum may be, I’ve never, to my knowledge, defamed or insulted you or anyone else on here and if you are unable to post on here without doing so maybe don’t post.
I’ll post if I want and when I want. Certainly won’t take advice from someone like you.
For your own sakes maybe take a break from social media, from your tone it sounds like you’re pretty wound up and going down all sorts of rabbit holes imagining all sorts of things about people you know very little
about all via a few lines of text, step back, calm down and think.
We may not agree with one another’s views but I wouldn’t want anyone getting stressed out or making themselves ill via social media-if you can’t handle the views of others maybe a forum isn’t the best place for you right now, I wish you the best and hope whatever is making you act out in this way passes we all have our demons and issues and I get that social media is a way to vent and offload onto others it’s not a mature or positive approach but if that helps you get through whatever is troubling you then I’ll be a reluctant punch bag if I must as I don’t think you’re a bad person and happy to support a fellow county fan going through issues (you do have appalling reading comprehension and absolutely no ability to debate like a grown up but I don’t believe you’re an intrinsically bad because of those failings).
Take care and enjoy the game today however you’re following it.
Awww bless you, that old chestnut. Trying to claim I have issues and don’t understand what you’re writing. Trying to come across as an intellectual, whereas you just come across as a bell end
Anyhoo, thanks for your concern but I am very calm, relaxed and looking forward to today’s game.
Well it was one of you having a few issues and acting out online or simply being petulant/unpleasant for another/no reason by posting abuse and insults I half admire you for not hiding behind the former but it’s not a good look for a grown up to be so quick to resort to insults, misquoting and deliberate misrepresentation towards people they don’t agree with.
Once again I don’t think you’re a bad person I just think you need to take a breath before you post and re read what others have written (no shame in having poor reading comprehension but you need to take more care in your responses if you do) not least because posts can come back to haunt and some of the unambiguously abusive and often salty language you have used could be embarrassing (albeit this is an obscure forum used by about 10 people and viewed by barely a few hundred more at most) regardless even if nobody is watching ask yourself “am I just being a bit off hand here by posting this? Have I jumped to Z without considering the other person’s argument? Can I cope with/do I fully understand the views of others or do I just resort to abuse because I can’t?”.
Or perhaps just wind your neck in a bit and stop presuming you’re the judge, jury and executioner of this forum your view is no more or less valid than anyone’s and if that is hard to swallow without throwing insults then stay offline.
Nah, I won’t wind my neck in son and I’ll continue to stay online and comment. Oh I understand fully what your ridiculous posts state, and being silly by writing that I don’t and ‘there’s no shame in it’ just makes you look a very foolish, pompous tool.
If you want to cry about it or get annoyed because you think someone has misrepresented your views (which I haven’t) then feel free to ‘foe’ me and you won’t have to read my posts.
Oh, and feel free to have the last word as I won’t reply as it can’t be interesting or fun for the other people on the forum
It’s not so much wanting the last word as not to let someone behaving like an abusive bully win so to speak ironically someone who seems awfully/laughably keen to have the last word themselves.
Once again if you can’t handle that not everyone has your world view [without misquoting, misrepresenting and abusing them with personal insults] then kindly stop posting on here because we don’t want people who resort to attacking a person [rather than their arguments-tackling the man rather than ball if you will] on this forum - disagree by all means but don’t disrespect.
My two pennies worth on this is that you come across as a wolf in sheeps clothing sometimes. You often comment on anything regarding sexism, misogyny, homophobia, racism, vile chanting, Joey Barton et al, and often you use the the subtext that football fans get a harsh deal when accused of any of the aforementioned.
It’s palpably clear why someone would wonder if there is a far right racist lurking underneath, when considering your output. Maybe thats far from the mark and unfair to you, but its how i see it.
The one person who wants to debate how outdated prejudice related to football fans, is still being used against fans who were not born when football's problems were rife, is himself attacked.
Further up Amberexile puts question marks after his comments, obviously seeking debate, but not getting any.
Why is this forum so frightened of debate, but happy to attack? Why do people have to judge comments rather than state their own? Why does someone have to be the judge of what is right?
It doesn't encourage debate from those that don't have the typical forum view does it? So those views are continually suppressed until the poster simply gives up. Fine if all you want is attacking propaganda, rather than lively debate, but it just leads to one sided views and back slapping, which is of no interest to anyone else.