We are talking about Newport and ancestry relating to the Roman period onwards. It is people that create wealth with the skills and knowledge that they bring. After all what did the Romans ever do for us? Apart from the roads, clean water, housing, education.........Chepstow'sFine wrote: October 4th, 2023, 11:28 am People who manipulate historical info to make pro-immigration points and claims always fail to take into account the numbers. For example, when England took in the protestant refugees from Europe in the 16th/17th centuries it was to the tune of 40-50k over the course of 200+ years. In 2022 we had over 600k net migration in ONE YEAR.
UPTHEPORT wrote: October 4th, 2023, 12:39 pm Migration brings more into the country than it takes
And let's face it we wouldn't have an NHS
Bangitintrnet wrote: October 4th, 2023, 1:49 pm When some businessmen tells you I spotted a gap in the market, it normally translates as there were people I could exploit.
If you have a lot of takeaway restaurants with low usage, and you have people who don't drive, you can put the two together and deliver takeaways. That's not taking away existing jobs it's creating new ones by exploiting people with limited options.
The care sector, the patients have limited options, the staff limited options.
When the Hungarian empire broke up the Jews migrated to Poland and Germany. They were more successful than the locals because they had access to Jewish finance that the locals didn't, in order to start business. They worked hard, and the locals hated their success.
Does that ring any bells with immigrant community's in the UK? They are successful because the money that they make stays in their community, but it also brings wealth more generally as they trade, create or provide care or a service...............
It's complimentary, it helps generate wealth not diminish it.
You keep believing what your beloved party keeps telling you then, but it doesn't align with the facts, which is where we started.......Torquay Exile wrote: October 4th, 2023, 5:09 pmBangitintrnet wrote: October 4th, 2023, 1:49 pm When some businessmen tells you I spotted a gap in the market, it normally translates as there were people I could exploit.
If you have a lot of takeaway restaurants with low usage, and you have people who don't drive, you can put the two together and deliver takeaways. That's not taking away existing jobs it's creating new ones by exploiting people with limited options.
The care sector, the patients have limited options, the staff limited options.
When the Hungarian empire broke up the Jews migrated to Poland and Germany. They were more successful than the locals because they had access to Jewish finance that the locals didn't, in order to start business. They worked hard, and the locals hated their success.
Does that ring any bells with immigrant community's in the UK? They are successful because the money that they make stays in their community, but it also brings wealth more generally as they trade, create or provide care or a service...............
It's complimentary, it helps generate wealth not diminish it.
I suppose you are partly right, it does help the illegal Drug industry. It puts more Drug Dealers on the streets. Keeps the police busy, when they could be doing something else, like making our streets a lot safer. Also helps other illegal activities to operate in our lovely country. We need to cut down on immigration (illegal immigration) end of.
Bangitintrnet wrote: October 4th, 2023, 5:55 pmYou keep believing what your beloved party keeps telling you then, but it doesn't align with the facts, which is where we started.......Torquay Exile wrote: October 4th, 2023, 5:09 pmBangitintrnet wrote: October 4th, 2023, 1:49 pm When some businessmen tells you I spotted a gap in the market, it normally translates as there were people I could exploit.
If you have a lot of takeaway restaurants with low usage, and you have people who don't drive, you can put the two together and deliver takeaways. That's not taking away existing jobs it's creating new ones by exploiting people with limited options.
The care sector, the patients have limited options, the staff limited options.
When the Hungarian empire broke up the Jews migrated to Poland and Germany. They were more successful than the locals because they had access to Jewish finance that the locals didn't, in order to start business. They worked hard, and the locals hated their success.
Does that ring any bells with immigrant community's in the UK? They are successful because the money that they make stays in their community, but it also brings wealth more generally as they trade, create or provide care or a service...............
It's complimentary, it helps generate wealth not diminish it.
I suppose you are partly right, it does help the illegal Drug industry. It puts more Drug Dealers on the streets. Keeps the police busy, when they could be doing something else, like making our streets a lot safer. Also helps other illegal activities to operate in our lovely country. We need to cut down on immigration (illegal immigration) end of.
If there was a route for legal asylum and immigration it would help no end.Torquay Exile wrote: October 4th, 2023, 6:37 pmBangitintrnet wrote: October 4th, 2023, 5:55 pmYou keep believing what your beloved party keeps telling you then, but it doesn't align with the facts, which is where we started.......Torquay Exile wrote: October 4th, 2023, 5:09 pmBangitintrnet wrote: October 4th, 2023, 1:49 pm When some businessmen tells you I spotted a gap in the market, it normally translates as there were people I could exploit.
If you have a lot of takeaway restaurants with low usage, and you have people who don't drive, you can put the two together and deliver takeaways. That's not taking away existing jobs it's creating new ones by exploiting people with limited options.
The care sector, the patients have limited options, the staff limited options.
When the Hungarian empire broke up the Jews migrated to Poland and Germany. They were more successful than the locals because they had access to Jewish finance that the locals didn't, in order to start business. They worked hard, and the locals hated their success.
Does that ring any bells with immigrant community's in the UK? They are successful because the money that they make stays in their community, but it also brings wealth more generally as they trade, create or provide care or a service...............
It's complimentary, it helps generate wealth not diminish it.
I suppose you are partly right, it does help the illegal Drug industry. It puts more Drug Dealers on the streets. Keeps the police busy, when they could be doing something else, like making our streets a lot safer. Also helps other illegal activities to operate in our lovely country. We need to cut down on immigration (illegal immigration) end of.
Everyone has their own opinion, including me. You must exercise your right to vote for the political party that aligns with your values, and I will do the same.
It's worth considering that we need to address issues surrounding illegal immigration. Many people share this belief, even if they may have difficulty admitting it.
Exactly, open the border. People are smuggled because there is a means to repay the smugglers. Let them in and smugglers disappear overnight.............Torquay Exile wrote: October 4th, 2023, 8:35 pm Smugglers often deceive migrants by falsely claiming that travelling to the UK is safe and easy. However, the reality is that the journey poses grave risks of injury, abuse, and exploitation. Moreover, it is not only expensive but also dangerous. Numerous men, women, and children have lost their lives while attempting to reach the UK via small boats or hidden in lorries.
Migrants are often placed in hazardous situations by smugglers. Most smugglers use the cheapest boats available. Which are unsuitable for dangerous waters, overload them with too many people, and fail to provide safe life jackets. It endangers the lives of migrants during every journey.
Wouldn't it be much better to opt for a safe and legal alternative?
Stan A. Einstein wrote: October 3rd, 2023, 9:44 am I'm with Exile 1976 on this one.
Trying to make out that immigrants, legal or not, are benefit scrougers and criminals is simply racist.
Some are. Some white people are. Some black people are. Some Jewish people are. Some Muslims are. Some Irish people are. I could go on but I think you'll all get the point.
And I get that we shouldn't resort to swearing at people. But when confronted with such mindless stupidity it's difficult not to lose your temper.
UPTHEPORT wrote: October 4th, 2023, 12:39 pm Migration brings more into the country than it takes
And let's face it we wouldn't have an NHS
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