whoareya wrote:Stan A. Einstein wrote:whoareya wrote:Stan A. Einstein wrote:whoareya wrote:What exactly are the additional financial implications of letting a restricted number of home season ticket holders into games that are already taking place?
If you mean the cost of stewarding, turnstiles etc, then just apply a minimal surcharge as many car dealerships are doing if you want your car serviced, to cover additional PPE etc.
This figure is a guesstimate. But I hope not a ridiculous one.
Firstly there is the cost of stewarding. I don't know but with Covid restriction One steward per 25 supporters would not seem unreasonable. 40 stewards for five hours at Saturday rates. £20 x 5 x 40. £4,000 just for starters. The company which employs those stewards will want to make a profit, will have their own expenses, will have to make NI contributions. At a very conservative estimate a further £2,000. Policing costs for outside the stadium. Public liability insurance and so on another £5,000. And having to build in sanitary stations etc. These costs are not known to me, in reality they may be higher or lower. Likewise there may be costs of which I have not detailed. Now a father taking two kids to a game for which they all have tickets might be a bit miffed at having to fork out another £36 as a 'minimal' surcharge don't you think?.
The 1000 limit would almost certainly rule out the family scenario you suggest and clubs don't pay anything for policing unless they attend inside the stadium, in this instance that wouldn't be needed. Even so, perhaps a dad would gladly pay a surcharch to take his kids to football - I know I would have. 1 steward per 25 supporters is more like a ratio of guards at The Maze, not a ratio for stewarding a largely elderly, passive attendance.
If the overall consensus was that even a limited crowd would be beneficial to the team spirit and performance then perhaps the club would gladly absorb the cost.
I think your repeated dismissals of the viability is a smokescreen - more to do with your opinion that it shouldn't be allowed, rather than it not being financially viable.
There it is. Read it.
Outside the stadium.
I look forward to your acknowledgement that you are in error.
The club doesn't pay for policing outside the stadium. I pointed that out to you. It's a fact, but I'm sure you've already checked it for yourself.
You were wrong.
I look forward to your acknowledgment that you are in error
Other than areas owned or controlled. Which may or may not include anyone queuing up on pavements etc. But as I say you are probably right inasmuch as those cost might be minimal or zero.
Let me explain. I don't know what the costs are. Neither do you. You can't simply declare yourself right. Even the President of the United States can't get away with that. As I say looking at the evidence policing cost are probably minimal. I am better informed than I was because when a point is made I check it out. If you wish to read the judgement in Leeds United FC v Chief Constable of West Yorkshire Police you will have a better understanding yourself. Again let me explain.
A man goes to the doctor. After tests the doctor gives his prognosis. Which is two years. Two years go by and the man goes back to the doctor. 'Doc, you were wrong, I'm still alive.' To which the doctor replies, 'No, I was right'. A prognosis is a prediction. It is a prognosis. not a cast iron guarantee.
My view as to the cost of putting on match and stewarding a crowd at Rodney Parade will cost in the region of £10/15,000 more than without a crowd. It may be more, it may be less. What do you think it is?