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So how come PM Boris benefitted from 2 nurses sat by his bedside for 48 hours caring for him, and making the difference between him staying alive? His words.

Does everyone get that level of service? If so, brilliant. But from everything I've read, a single ICU nurse now has about ten covid-19 patients each to care for, a much higher workload than pre-virus.

It's great news that he got this care and his health has improved but I really hope he wasn't given preferential treatment over someone else.

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DeePeeNCAFC wrote:So how come PM Boris benefitted from 2 nurses sat by his bedside for 48 hours caring for him, and making the difference between him staying alive? His words.

Does everyone get that level of service? If so, brilliant. But from everything I've read, a single ICU nurse now has about ten covid-19 patients each to care for, a much higher workload than pre-virus.

It's great news that he got this care and his health has improved but I really hope he wasn't given preferential treatment over someone else.
Is there a more socialist institution than the NHS? Funny how when their own lives are on the line how Tories become rabid reds.

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Stan. Are you suggesting the Tories are going all 'New Labour' on us? Cash handouts to those not in work, bailouts to faltering businesses, homeless people taken off the streets and put up in hotels, extra money for the NHS and civil service, police finally on the streets getting out and meeting people, mortgage and tax breaks for those who need it, and getting the next generation of tax-payers and pensioners to pay for it all over the next 10-20 years?

Who needs Corbyn when we've got BoJo? Trouble is, I think we all know that the PM would have definitely used a private hospital if he hadn't already taken over all their beds to try to deal with this crisis.

This virus is going to leave huge after-effects, and we'll feel those for years to come. A couple of good things to pick out of the bones - air pollution is certainly better both locally and globally and we didn't even need some Swedish teenager to lecture us into reducing emissions. But (hopefully) the biggest change will be to how everyone from the PM to us commoners (OK, I accept that term might offend you Stan, sorry) will start to appreciate the real value of the NHS, the public services we have decimated over the last few government terms, and the value of our communities, all pulling together.

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Oh, and one last thought.

Gwent has been and continues to be badly hit by this cruel virus. It seems to attack anyone, young or old, healthy or not but, broadly speaking, anyone who is overweight or with other existing respiratory problems has a higher chance of getting infected it would seem.

When I first moved to this part of the UK about 16yrs ago, I was shocked at the level of obvious obesity and smoking amongst families. The amount of fast-food takeaways flooding our streets, I'd never even seen a Greggs before I lived here, now I can't turn a corner without seeing one.

I don't think this has worked in anyone's favour now we're in this pandemic. I feel bad for anyone and everyone affected and hope that when we come through the other side we can re-assess our lives, stop relying on bad food choices and illicit cigarette supplies which are prevalent in this part of the UK and maybe do more to make ours a more healthy community?

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DeePeeNCAFC wrote:So how come PM Boris benefitted from 2 nurses sat by his bedside for 48 hours caring for him, and making the difference between him staying alive? His words.

Does everyone get that level of service? If so, brilliant. But from everything I've read, a single ICU nurse now has about ten covid-19 patients each to care for, a much higher workload than pre-virus.

It's great news that he got this care and his health has improved but I really hope he wasn't given preferential treatment over someone else.
When someone goes on icu they usually get one to one nursing as nurses work 12 hrs those 2 would have looked after him for 48 hrs

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DeePeeNCAFC wrote:Stan. Are you suggesting the Tories are going all 'New Labour' on us? Cash handouts to those not in work, bailouts to faltering businesses, homeless people taken off the streets and put up in hotels, extra money for the NHS and civil service, police finally on the streets getting out and meeting people, mortgage and tax breaks for those who need it, and getting the next generation of tax-payers and pensioners to pay for it all over the next 10-20 years?

Who needs Corbyn when we've got BoJo? Trouble is, I think we all know that the PM would have definitely used a private hospital if he hadn't already taken over all their beds to try to deal with this crisis.

This virus is going to leave huge after-effects, and we'll feel those for years to come. A couple of good things to pick out of the bones - air pollution is certainly better both locally and globally and we didn't even need some Swedish teenager to lecture us into reducing emissions. But (hopefully) the biggest change will be to how everyone from the PM to us commoners (OK, I accept that term might offend you Stan, sorry) will start to appreciate the real value of the NHS, the public services we have decimated over the last few government terms, and the value of our communities, all pulling together.
Commoners doesn't offend me. Aristocrats on the other hand........... :grin:

Seriously though I hope if there is any good to come out of all of this it will be that we learn to respect and properly pay the front line workers on whom we all rely. The carers, the shop workers, the porters, the sweeps. And so many others without whom life would become virtually impossible.

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DeePeeNCAFC wrote:Oh, and one last thought.

Gwent has been and continues to be badly hit by this cruel virus. It seems to attack anyone, young or old, healthy or not but, broadly speaking, anyone who is overweight or with other existing respiratory problems has a higher chance of getting infected it would seem.

When I first moved to this part of the UK about 16yrs ago, I was shocked at the level of obvious obesity and smoking amongst families. The amount of fast-food takeaways flooding our streets, I'd never even seen a Greggs before I lived here, now I can't turn a corner without seeing one.

I don't think this has worked in anyone's favour now we're in this pandemic. I feel bad for anyone and everyone affected and hope that when we come through the other side we can re-assess our lives, stop relying on bad food choices and illicit cigarette supplies which are prevalent in this part of the UK and maybe do more to make ours a more healthy community?
The last time I checked Gwent, and Newport in particularly, had the highest concentration of cases anywhere in the UK, but if you look at the graph from the Downing Street daily briefings, all they say is that London is the worst region followed by the Midlands. Their statistics merely indicate that London has a much higher population, and the Midlands too.

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