Corpaboy wrote:Haven't watched the documentary . Basically because I'm sick of seeing the man on the TV lately !
Not that I condone The Sun or other like minded individuals for what they have done or said , but Gareth Thomas' life is just one , big documentary from what I can see .

He's a gay "celebrity" ..... big deal .

As for him having HIV , there is absolutely no excuse in this day and age .
He says he wants people to be "more aware" of the condition . It's a pity he wasn't "more aware" himself !

(Cue a ban for homophobic comments ! )

Corpaboy wrote:Haven't watched the documentary . Basically because I'm sick of seeing the man on the TV lately !
Not that I condone The Sun or other like minded individuals for what they have done or said , but Gareth Thomas' life is just one , big documentary from what I can see .

He's a gay "celebrity" ..... big deal .

As for him having HIV , there is absolutely no excuse in this day and age .
He says he wants people to be "more aware" of the condition . It's a pity he wasn't "more aware" himself !

(Cue a ban for homophobic comments ! )

Corpaboy wrote:Haven't watched the documentary . Basically because I'm sick of seeing the man on the TV lately !
Not that I condone The Sun or other like minded individuals for what they have done or said , but Gareth Thomas' life is just one , big documentary from what I can see .

He's a gay "celebrity" ..... big deal .

As for him having HIV , there is absolutely no excuse in this day and age .
He says he wants people to be "more aware" of the condition . It's a pity he wasn't "more aware" himself !

(Cue a ban for homophobic comments ! )

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Corpaboy wrote:Haven't watched the documentary . Basically because I'm sick of seeing the man on the TV lately !
Not that I condone The Sun or other like minded individuals for what they have done or said , but Gareth Thomas' life is just one , big documentary from what I can see .

He's a gay "celebrity" ..... big deal .

As for him having HIV , there is absolutely no excuse in this day and age .
He says he wants people to be "more aware" of the condition . It's a pity he wasn't "more aware" himself !

(Cue a ban for homophobic comments ! )

I don't think that your comments are homophobic. Although I'm sure that there are many who would pretend they were if it suited their agenda.

I am not sure I agree with you though. There is no excuse for being fat, there is no excuse for smoking, there is no excuse for not eating enough fibre, there is no excuse for ever being less than perfect.

When you have had a drink and you have got the hots sex happens. And the idea that you or anyone else will always stop to think about the potential Consequences is for the birds.

Frank Nouble 3 wrote:The documentary stated that he had the virus for years and would secretly get treatment every 6 months to avoid anybody spotting him.
Very lucky fella as improved treatments mean its not a guaranteed killer any more.
Dreadful the way him and a few others ganged up to get rid of Ruddock all those years back when he was doing a great job managing the National side.
That's another debate though.

UPTHEPORT wrote:

Frank Nouble 3 wrote:The documentary stated that he had the virus for years and would secretly get treatment every 6 months to avoid anybody spotting him.
Very lucky fella as improved treatments mean its not a guaranteed killer any more.
Dreadful the way him and a few others ganged up to get rid of Ruddock all those years back when he was doing a great job managing the National side.
That's another debate though.

So why did he say the press took away the fact he couldn't tell his parents when hes had years to tell them

And did he have it while he was playing because hes putting other players officials etc at risk there's a lot of blood injuries in egg chasing

Corpaboy wrote:
So , you DO agree with me on the "no excuse" bit then , Stan ?
All of those "conditions" you describe are preventable but are common place .

Exile 1976 wrote:Out of interest mods, why is this not in the ‘everything else’ section?

Corpaboy wrote:

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Corpaboy wrote:Haven't watched the documentary . Basically because I'm sick of seeing the man on the TV lately !
Not that I condone The Sun or other like minded individuals for what they have done or said , but Gareth Thomas' life is just one , big documentary from what I can see .

He's a gay "celebrity" ..... big deal .

As for him having HIV , there is absolutely no excuse in this day and age .
He says he wants people to be "more aware" of the condition . It's a pity he wasn't "more aware" himself !

(Cue a ban for homophobic comments ! )

I don't think that your comments are homophobic. Although I'm sure that there are many who would pretend they were if it suited their agenda.

I am not sure I agree with you though. There is no excuse for being fat, there is no excuse for smoking, there is no excuse for not eating enough fibre, there is no excuse for ever being less than perfect.

When you have had a drink and you have got the hots sex happens. And the idea that you or anyone else will always stop to think about the potential Consequences is for the birds.

So , you DO agree with me on the "no excuse" bit then , Stan ?
All of those "conditions" you describe are preventable but are common place .
What Alfie is trying to say is that HIV is no big deal either in this day and age ? So , why make a documentary about it with yourself as the main attraction ??? Sorry , but I can't listen to the man any more .
But ..... just my opinion

OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote:

Exile 1976 wrote:Out of interest mods, why is this not in the ‘everything else’ section?

Very good question. To relate it to football I would ask the following 2 questions.
Why has no high profile male footballer felt able to 'come out?'
Is the main reason the inevitable unwanted and adverse media attention or the homophobic abuse he would get from football crowds, or both?

llanwern exile wrote:

OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote:

Exile 1976 wrote:Out of interest mods, why is this not in the ‘everything else’ section?

Very good question. To relate it to football I would ask the following 2 questions.
Why has no high profile male footballer felt able to 'come out?'
Is the main reason the inevitable unwanted and adverse media attention or the homophobic abuse he would get from football crowds, or both?

Justin Fashanu.

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Corpaboy wrote:
So , you DO agree with me on the "no excuse" bit then , Stan ?
All of those "conditions" you describe are preventable but are common place .

Quite the reverse. The excuse is that of human frailty.