UPTHEPORT wrote:it's fact that Charlton are the only team to lose a game in the FA Cup and still get to the final in same season

Another curiosity of the cup that season is that County should not have played in the round againstTorquay because League South teams were exempt from that round. But the club had to apply to exercise their exemption and sent the forms in too late.

You can go on and on about that season. Newport had two representatives in the first round proper of Cup. As well as County beating Torquay, Lovells beat Bournemouth 6-4 on aggregate.There were also 2 Newports with Newport IoW beating Leyton Orient 3-2. Lovells beat Bath City 7-3 in the 2nd round with County beating Exeter City 8-2. The other Newport lost 12-nil to Aldershot.In the third round Lovells were beaten by Wolves 12-3, County lost to Southampton 6-4.

Mind you there wasn't much on the telly.

G Guest wrote:

UPTHEPORT wrote:it's fact that Charlton are the only team to lose a game in the FA Cup and still get to the final in same season

Another curiosity of the cup that season is that County should not have played in the round against Torquay because League South teams were exempt from that round. But the club had to apply to exercise their exemption and sent the forms in too late.

Just to enlarge on the above, as a second division club County were not required to play in rounds 1 and 2 of the Cup, but failed to claim the exemption in time. Could this be another of the curious claims to fame that County seemed to have collected during their history. Are they the only tier 2 club ever to play in rounds 1 and 2 of the FA cup?

"It's a disgrace", Big Time!

G Guest wrote:

G Guest wrote:

UPTHEPORT wrote:it's fact that Charlton are the only team to lose a game in the FA Cup and still get to the final in same season

Another curiosity of the cup that season is that County should not have played in the round against Torquay because League South teams were exempt from that round. But the club had to apply to exercise their exemption and sent the forms in too late.

Just to enlarge on the above, as a second division club County were not required to play in rounds 1 and 2 of the Cup, but failed to claim the exemption in time. Could this be another of the curious claims to fame that County seemed to have collected during their history. Are they the only tier 2 club ever to play in rounds 1 and 2 of the FA cup?

Never got on it before but the Formers players Facebook page is a great read even just to see the birthday pictures of those still with us and unfortunately those no longer.

Harps62 wrote:Pembs
It was the first season after the war and all the Southern clubs in Division 1/2 played in 1 league and those up north the same.
The following year it all changed.
Unfortunately we only got 20 points all season then the following year not many more and ended up in the fourth tier with two bottom of the table seasons.
Gates were brilliant though looking on Wiki.

23 points and bottom in 46/47
12th in Third Division South in 47/48,
15th in 48/49,
21st (of 22) in 49/50 - not relegated
11th in 50/51
6th in 51/52
15th in 52/53
15th in 53/54
19th (of 24) in 54/55
19th in 55/56
12th in 56/57
11th in 57/58 (reorganised into Third Division)
17th in 58/59
13th in 59/60...

Anyway, point made that we didn't exactly hurtle to the bottom 2 of the 4th Division after the war as implied.

G Guest wrote:Are they the only tier 2 club ever to play in rounds 1 and 2 of the FA cup?

I doubt it, there will have been a heap of competitions in the early days where that happened, and even recently there will probably have been quirks when leagues have reorganised too.

EDIT:
The 1892/3 FA Cup saw Football League Division Two sides Small Heath, Sheffield United, Darwen and Grimsby Town in the first round of the FA Cup, amongst others...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1892%E2%8 ... all_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1892%E2%80%9393_FA_Cup

SJG99 wrote:

G Guest wrote:Are they the only tier 2 club ever to play in rounds 1 and 2 of the FA cup?

I doubt it, there will have been a heap of competitions in the early days where that happened, and even recently there will probably have been quirks when leagues have reorganised too.

Come on then SJG99
Doubt it isn't an answer.
Get digging.

Harps62 wrote:

SJG99 wrote:

G Guest wrote:Are they the only tier 2 club ever to play in rounds 1 and 2 of the FA cup?

I doubt it, there will have been a heap of competitions in the early days where that happened, and even recently there will probably have been quirks when leagues have reorganised too.

Come on then SJG99
Doubt it isn't an answer.
Get digging.

Had already replied.

SJG99 wrote:

Harps62 wrote:Pembs
It was the first season after the war and all the Southern clubs in Division 1/2 played in 1 league and those up north the same.
The following year it all changed.
Unfortunately we only got 20 points all season then the following year not many more and ended up in the fourth tier with two bottom of the table seasons.
Gates were brilliant though looking on Wiki.

23 points and bottom in 46/47
12th in Third Division South in 47/48,
15th in 48/49,
21st (of 22) in 49/50 - not relegated
11th in 50/51
6th in 51/52
15th in 52/53
15th in 53/54
19th (of 24) in 54/55
19th in 55/56
12th in 56/57
11th in 57/58 (reorganised into Third Division)
17th in 58/59
13th in 59/60...

Anyway, point made that we didn't exactly hurtle to the bottom 2 of the 4th Division after the war as implied.

Think we held the record for reapplying to the Football league when in Division 3 South and the fourth Division.
it seemed more often than not.
Poor old Gateshed had to apply just the once and got kicked out.
The old County had lots of friends which kept us in every year.
Think the other worst team for applications was Crewe where Les Riggs went to after leaving us.

This is a corrected version of an earlier post which contained incorrect information for which I apologise.

Looking at Wikipedia, the club with the most re-election applications in the period after 1920 when the 4 division format was adopted is Hartlepool United with 14, all of which were successful. County made 10 applications, only 9 of these were successful. County failed to gain re-election in 1931 and played in the Southern League and the Welsh League the following season. After just one season in non-league football County were elected to the Football League for the 1932/33 season. Gillingham and Aldershot were also elected at that time. The first home game, against Clapton Orient attracted a crowd of 7,805.County finished the season bottom but one and the re-election applications started again.

Harps62 wrote: The old County had lots of friends which kept us in every year.

I used to see it like that, but I do wonder if clubs had a vested interest in hanging on to some dead wood as a buffer.

George Street-Bridge wrote:

Harps62 wrote: The old County had lots of friends which kept us in every year.

I used to see it like that, but I do wonder if clubs had a vested interest in hanging on to some dead wood as a buffer.

Well they did throw us out in 1931. An advantage County had over many other applicants was being located on the main railway line from many parts of the country, particularly London and the south. Clubs other than County who failed to win re-election are:-

Since 1958

Barrow
Southport
Workington
Bradford P A
Gateshead

Not one southern club in that list.

Before 1958 and after 1920.

Gillingham ( who like County got back in.)
New Brighton
Merthyr
Ashington (Northumberland.)
Aberdare
Durham
Nelson

Out of the total of 12 clubs listed only 3 plus County are in the South. Of those 4, 3 are in Wales.

You beat me to that.
Think Bradford PA went bust rather than failed to get re elected as well.
For the oldies they bought some former Division 1 stars which didn't help the cause.
Mel Hopkins from Spurs and Ray Charnley from Blackpool were 2 of them.